Various vitamin and mineral supplements that claim to stop hair loss : NOT EFFECTIVE NISIM products : NOT EFFECTIVE SPECTRAL DNC prodcuts : NOT EFFECTIVE MINOXIDIL 5% and 12.5% : NOT EFFECTIVE NIZORAL shampoo : NOT EFFECTIVE LASER COMB : NOT EFFECTIVE PROPECIA : NOT EFFECTIVE

The rest of the treatments trialed by myself, which i cant remember, were as ineffective as the above. My advice to anyone wanting to buy something to stop their hairloss, dont bother and save your money rather than WASTING thousands of pounds like me. If you still wanna try something, go for propecia and minoxidil combo only if youve caught your hairloss early enough, as they have enough evidence backing them !!!! If that doesnt work you are going to be bald and ugly just like me.

DONT BE FOOLED by all the success stories and the pics that you see on the net, theres a good chnce the pics are fake and even if they are real there is a big probability that the products wont work for you!!!!! Dont give yourself false hope, because its going to hurt a hundred times more when you realise its just not going to happen!!!!!

curcumin

resveratrol

vitamin D (cholecalciferol)

vitamin C

magnesium (citrate)

Fo ti (prepared He Shou Wu)

Ginseng (Korean)

Astragalus

Nothing really works well out there. Either it doesn't work or you get some marginal results while constantly draining your wallet buying treatments.

Getting that full head of hair back won't happen with currently available treatments. Transplants can possibly do it to a point,but once you start losing more hair and theres not enough donor hair they are useless.

Losing battle.Lots of scams out there. Histogen says a 2015 release date,maybe that will work well.

Well my friend I hate to say that you are wrong. Minoxidil was very effective for me and is how I regrew most of my hair. It also is effective for alot of other people I know that use it. Just because it may not have worked for you does not mean that it does not work and the fact is, is that most of the treatments you mention DO work for alot of people who try them and stick with them. The only one I would agree with you on is the Laser Comb.

Why do you have to be so negative because something didn't work for you?  That's basically like saying since cancer treatments don't work for everybody, nobody should bother trying them when they get cancer.  Not everything in medicine is 100% effective -- but just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean it won't work for others.  I had more than just 'marginal' results myself.

Iv been trying OMG laser helmet, propecia, promox, and nizoral shampoo for about two years now with no success. Im throwing the towel in and giving up.

Good luck to you guys out there. Hope you guys do find something that does work for you.

Sorry daylight... try and hold on to what ya got some good treatments probably coming out in the next few years.. did none of the treatments even stop further loss??

have you considered trying avodart/dutasteride?  if something is holding on to what you got you should keep it up if you can because there's some promising stuff in the works just no way to tell when something new is gonna come.  It may not matter tho most of the best stuff coming down the line is about either culturing dermal papillas and reimplanting them or working to get new follicles to generate in the scalp... so it may not matter much if you hold on to what you got when that stuff coms out.  But who knows when that will be.

As regards to keeping what I got... my hair still falls out, the same amount as it did before any treatments. May be just may be it has slowed it down slightly, but is it worth the price am paying for all these treaments?

The way I see it I can pay upto a thousand pounds to look like shit or look like shit for free.

Are you talking about the amount of hairs that fall out each day or the speed at which your balding/thinning is progressing?  Because you still lose hair even if your hair loss doesn't progress.  Studies have shown most men do not lose an abnormally high amount of hair - they lose a normal amount of hair compared to people without hair loss.  The difference is that in men with hair loss the hairs start to miniaturize and eventually are either too small to see or are not replaced.  Even if you are gaining hair though you are still gonna lose 100-150 hairs a day.

That sucks.  How long did you use the laser helmet and the other different things?  If avodart didn't work for you I wouldn't think propecia would either.  Is your hair loss a typical male pattern loss?

Prior to that was just using propecia and promox for some time. (also used laser comb during this time )

Prior to that, was using just AVODART with minoxidil for about a year.

Prior to that propecia and minoxidil 10% or was it 13%... erm cant remember. Did that for about a year.

Prior to that tried all the natural treatments as i was scared off getting side effects from propecia etc now that was a waste of time !!!!!

Yep my hair loss is typical, started iin the crown and spreading to the front .

And yes web,aster it does suck, sucks big time .

What degree of hair loss did you start at when you sarted propecia/minoxidil and where are you at now?

3 years+ of different treatments and no results -- I'd be pissed off and think nothing works too.

Did anything seem to work better than others or was it pretty much the same rate of loss no matter what you did?  Did you ever see any improvements at all during any of them?

Sounds like your up against a stacked deck, I dont know where you are on this earth, but there is a clinic here in the UK called the Belgravia hair clinic, here in London, they have some pretty impressive photos of people with vitually no hair left , who have gone on to have good hair growth on there advice, they are straight and honest with people, no false bull, if you google it, you will find it, might give you some hope, you do not need to visit, you can do it over the internet, good luck.

Daylight, have you considered transplants?

Being bald is not the end of the world. Bald people have walked on the moon for god's sake. You can do anything in this life bald that you can with a full head of hair. You can be loved and respected. You can get laid! You can climb mount everest!

You could get a hair piece. They look completely natural as long as you get the right one. You could get a hair transplant. There are plenty of things you can do and you can still be happy even if you don't do any of them!

It sounds to me like you have a depression problem more than you have a hair loss problem. I could be very wrong about that though. I don't know you so I meant no offense if I am wrong. But if you do have a depression problem this too can be effectively treated.

Then there's my wimp speech. It isn't very nice. But this is the first "aging hurdle" you been inflicted with. Sounds like you've given up on life already because of the first obstacle. AM I wrong?

If you need to talk to someone you could always email me as well. I'm at hairimprovement2@yahoo.com.

Even if you don't, there are plenty of people on this forum that understand what you are going through. I've been there myself. I lost most of my hair long before I ever discovered anything that helped. I've adjusted to it though. I started losing my hair when I was 19. I'm 51 now. I have a beautiful and kind wife, two good kids, a house, a car, a few dollars in the bank even. I'm respected at my job, I have several hobbies. I'm pretty happy all things considered. If I, and a million other guys just like me, figured out how to do this, why can't you?

I hope this post will be of some help to you. I've assumed some things about you that may or may not be true however. If I assumed wrong, I truly apologize.

Well i first started propecia and minoxidil combo 2005ish when i was 21. My hair was visibly thin on my crown at that time.

Yes zixcreator I can go onto have a happy life like you said, but i always will be that bald guy and some1 will always make a comment. Like today at a wedding, saw people iv not seen for a while and all they did was take the piss!!! And earlier this week when one of my collegues was taking piss out of a bald custtomer and went bright red when she realised i was there. Maybe i should just laugh it off and not think twice about it but i guess im not like that.

Bastard mofo's!

Have you considered transplants daylight?  You could always do the age old trick of wearing a hat everywhere too   I used to know a guy who always wore a baseball cap and never really thought anything of it until he took it off and saw that he was a norwood 6.  Start saving your money it's not going to be too much longer I think before they start up the cultured hair follicle transplants.  Then you can just get that done and have a full head of hair (at least whenever it actually becomes available).

I dont know what colour your hair is ?, but if its dark that always shows up thinning hair more the scalp skin contrast, why dont you bleach your existing hair white ?, you will get very little definition of scalp skin showing through. Also, why dont you just shave it all off, that way people will think you have decided to go bald rather then nature ?. You,ve got to toughen up, stop making hair loss the focus of your life, we all know its no fun, in away it can be a humbling experience for people, and make you more considerate to others feelings, which is no bad thing. I guess every poster on this forum, is here because we are looking at ways to get or keep are existing hair, hair loss must be a primitive thing that still haunts us to day, where we had thick crops that were probably used in some way to attract a mate, thats why it is still in our subconcious today to want to keep it, I,ve seen crack german fighting troops on tv interviewed after the war with comb overs, you would not think that tough geezers like that would be worried about a little thing like hair loss, which brings it back to what I have already said, its deep in some of us. Well, just think of this if you cant think anything else, your not alone, there are millions of us with hair loss, including lots more women now, think how much worse it must be for them ?. Your young enough to see some break through in hair loss coming along, who knows. Some people will always take the mick, just laugh it off, and give as good as you get.

Good idea rumdo except that bleaching and dying your hair is one of the harshest things you can do to hair

Shaving was a big trend a few years back, and for some men it works really well.  For others like me it would never work.  Who knows might be a good look for daylight tho.

If we're going the 'do things to minimize the hair issue' route, he could also become a fighter/tough guy.  People tend not to make fun of really big tough dudes who can kick their ass   Also for some reason it seems tough guys don't look so bad bald (Jason Stratham, Fedor Emlianko, Randy Couture, etc)

webmaster - transplants..... erm some more money down the drain, thats the way i see it anyways.

rumdo- where in uk r u from ?

why would you consider it money down the drain daylight?  at least they work   the only question would be whether you have enough hair in the back to get a satisfying result.  I believe Belgravia does them where you are at.

Buy some nice hats to wear. I find that no one wears decent hats these days, so I can stand out just with my various hats. I take them off indoors so I don't look like I'm trying to hide things.

Personally I think that looking bald is more acceptable, than being balding and trying to make the most of what strands remain, so overall I would recommend cutting it short, and putting the hard work in to get yourself fit and toned.

My advise is to never give up. Keep trying different things and maybe something will work. At least you can say you did everything you could to prevent it. Right now I've added juicing to my program and massaging with one of those head scratcher massage things you can buy at the mall. It seems to be working. Some juices can really stimulate growth. (Alfalfa sprouts, carrots, spinach, ginger.)

Thanks again Zix.

Dobika I assume you mean drinking the juice not putting it on your head?